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1:51am-x- Altrius -x-:
Nerve of some people
1:52amAkatsuki_Zala:
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1:53am
what happened?
1:53am-x- Altrius -x-:
My friend is trying to apologize, when she knows she violated my trust ><
1:54amAkatsuki_Zala:
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the same person whom you said betrayed you?
1:54am-x- Altrius -x-:
mhm
long story
x...x
I mean a very long story
1:56am
Hrm, yall' say that Puppeteers can use weapons or carry them. Yet, I don't see it listed under limitations or weaknesses ._.
1:57am
I think that's why people equip weapons to their puppeteers
Is b/c they don't know
1:57amAkatsuki_Zala:
but weapons
are linked to stykes
*styles
that's how I know
1:57am-x- Altrius -x-:
There is no rule that says a shinobi must use a style for a weapon
.-.
1:57amAkatsuki_Zala:
puppeteers have weak bodies and therefore can't learn styles
it very well just be a two by four
1:57am-x- Altrius -x-:
Mbizi has a sword, yet he don't have a style
1:57amAkatsuki_Zala:
-___-
1:58am
he's a tai
and he can learn one kenjutsu
that's the thing I find about the classes
if you can't learn tai
you can't learn ken
1:59am
because both need good bodies
when I made Wanajutsu
Dance mentioned that they have weak bodies and can't learn styles
2:00am
and they have the same body types as puppetiers
and in Naruto, I never seen once Kankuro and Sasory use any swords
2:01am-x- Altrius -x-:
>o<;; Honestly. The average person wouldn't be thinking this when you look at the classes. I think it should be clearly stated under the class.
Now I see where this confusion is coming from
2:01amAkatsuki_Zala:
I guess i'll have to make it clear then
2:02am
the main thing is
puppeteers and Wanajutsu all have physical strength
but not the endurance to perform tai or ken.
but I have to make sure I write those down now
2:03am-x- Altrius -x-:
Puppeteers state the following.

No Tai/Ken.

But, it states nothing of carrying weapons or equipment of the sort.
2:03amAkatsuki_Zala:
kunai and shuriken are weapons
yet they're thrown so they don't need a style
but a sword without a style
2:04am
is like drywood
2:04am-x- Altrius -x-:
>> You don't need no style to beat the s**t out of someone with a base ball bat
2:04amAkatsuki_Zala:
or an accessory
that's blunt weapon
2:04am-x- Altrius -x-:
or pummel someone with free form fighting
2:04amAkatsuki_Zala:
that's also a form
-__-
2:04am-x- Altrius -x-:
*But that's a different story and subject
2:04amAkatsuki_Zala:
styles mean the way you pummel/cut them
2:05am
you do have a point
b***h slap
isn't a style
2:06am
yet if you look at it in terms of he puppeteers so far
Kankuro, Chiyo and Sasory
*Sasori
2:06am-x- Altrius -x-:
That's how the creator of Naruto made them
2:07amAkatsuki_Zala:
and the weapons that they carry themselves
is the puppets
2:07am-x- Altrius -x-:
Hrm..
2:07amAkatsuki_Zala:
now that I think of it
the puppeteers so far
like Elemental and Trap
2:08am
they put their puppets in the weapons
I'm going to look at the classes once more
2:09am-x- Altrius -x-:
>> What if someone makes a puppeteer that utilizes their adequate ninjutsu as a part of their fighting as well? If the guild's puppeteers are like Naruto, then they shouldn't have ninjutsu either unless the puppet is from a dead body (Sasori)
2:10am
B/c I never seen Sasori, Kankuro, ect use their ninjutsu skill other then for their puppets
But it does not state that in the class itself
What that is, is a loop hole
<<;;
2:11am
There shouldn't be a unwritten rule like that
2:11amAkatsuki_Zala:
that's true
let's take notes of these and tell Azn
2:11am-x- Altrius -x-:
It is very unfair and we get all huffy and puffy just because someone does not understand common sense to a point?
What if no one watched Naruto, but yet likes to RP it?
2:12am
How would they know?
2:12amAkatsuki_Zala:
that's a good point
2:12am-x- Altrius -x-:
How would they know the common sense behind all of it
2:12amAkatsuki_Zala:
since I stopped watching at Shippuuden
you have a clear point there
2:12am-x- Altrius -x-:
I read it all the way till now
2:12amAkatsuki_Zala:
I actually wonder
2:13am
you know
we have to tell Azn about this and see what he thinks
2:13am-x- Altrius -x-:
I mean... why are we pointing out these "unwritten" rules. on profiles when these people have no way of knowing this
D:
The fault is on us
Not them
Why? B/c we did not state it clearly
-Stops-
2:14amAkatsuki_Zala:
seriously
these are good points
and I feel bad I got mad at those guys for
that
I'm too used to the rules that I forgot that there were holes in them









2:11amAkatsuki_Zala:
let's take notes of these and tell Azn
2:11am-x- Altrius -x-:
It is very unfair and we get all huffy and puffy just because someone does not understand common sense to a point?
2:12am
What if no one watched Naruto, but yet likes to RP it?
How would they know?
2:12amAkatsuki_Zala:
that's a good point
2:12am-x- Altrius -x-:
How would they know the common sense behind all of it
2:12amAkatsuki_Zala:
since I stopped watching at Shippuuden
you have a clear point there
2:12am-x- Altrius -x-:
I read it all the way till now
2:12amAkatsuki_Zala:
I actually wonder
2:13am
you know
we have to tell Azn about this and see what he thinks
2:13am-x- Altrius -x-:
I mean... why are we pointing out these "unwritten" rules. on profiles when these people have no way of knowing this
D:
The fault is on us
Not them
Why? B/c we did not state it clearly
-Stops-
2:14amAkatsuki_Zala:
seriously
these are good points
and I feel bad I got mad at those guys for
that
I'm too used to the rules that I forgot that there were holes in them
2:15am-x- Altrius -x-:
-nod-
2:15amAkatsuki_Zala:
I really need to take these down
2:16am
I need to specify the weapons as well
as well as the puppet jutsu really
2:16am-x- Altrius -x-:
it's not write to have unwritten rules. It's very bad of us to be all high and mighty. Also, everyone must be judged equally
x.x
2:16amAkatsuki_Zala:
yea...
-___-
2:16am-x- Altrius -x-:
Which is what I am trying to do with that illiterate kid
2:16amAkatsuki_Zala:
I forgot about that...
2:17am-x- Altrius -x-:
he's.... RAH! But, i'm trying my best.
2:17amAkatsuki_Zala:
man I'm pathetic
2:17am-x- Altrius -x-:
No, all of us mods are if we done this
I am guilty too
2:18amAkatsuki_Zala:
I really need to get my head on track
2:18am-x- Altrius -x-:
But in a bit of seriousness. Put yourself in a puppeteer's shoes >>
You have a puppet
right?
What if it breaks? Or gets gunked up?
2:19amAkatsuki_Zala:
there are other ways
that I thought of that
without weapons
it's in the ideas category
2:19am-x- Altrius -x-:
Now, your stuck with nothing
2:19amAkatsuki_Zala:
well
I thought of that
because Lewis is a puppeteer
that's why I asked Azn about gadgets instead
2:20am
you still have kunai as a weapon
but I was also thinking of giving puppeteers gadget blueprints as well
2:20am-x- Altrius -x-:
Aye. But what if they list a tanto? Or a hidden knife?
2:20amAkatsuki_Zala:
Hidden knives
are meant to be hidden
they're all right
2:21am
daggers
kunai
those don't count as real weapons
2:21am-x- Altrius -x-:
Well boy, that was defianatly not alright for Asura when she listed that >>;;
2:21amAkatsuki_Zala:
tanto was a hidden knofe?
*knife?
>,>
2:22am
but she was a kenjutsu user and she did explain why she needed them
so I let her go on that one I think...
if not, I'll let her have that
2:22am-x- Altrius -x-:
hidden in her undergarments. But, it was a weapon she stated that was a last resort.
2:23am
Well, she posted a three inch blade
She did
2:23amAkatsuki_Zala:
yea...
2:23am-x- Altrius -x-:
Actually, she posted every weapon's purpose
The katana
The side blade
the chakrams
the gauntlets
the knife
2:24amAkatsuki_Zala:
chakram for a style
gaunglets for tai
2:24am-x- Altrius -x-:
>> She made a style
She made that counter argument you knpw
2:24amAkatsuki_Zala:
was it approved?
2:24am-x- Altrius -x-:
*know
2:24amAkatsuki_Zala:
yup
2:24am-x- Altrius -x-:
It was still in the making
2:25am
and it is still
I read a bit of it... it's good
The purpose of her guantlets really
are to prevent the chakrams
from cutting her
from when she uses the,
*them
But
She listed them as a weapon as well
Since they have iron studs on the knuckles
2:26am
She stated that would be her one tai weapon and style
2:26amAkatsuki_Zala:
..........
2:26am-x- Altrius -x-:
Since that post, she hasn't done anything v.v
2:26amAkatsuki_Zala:
........
2:26am-x- Altrius -x-:
So. I think she won't be coming back DX
2:27amAkatsuki_Zala:
...............
2:27am-x- Altrius -x-:
I'm trying to make a point here. This is the reason that pointing out such unwritten rules and all that is bad
D:



2:23am-x- Altrius -x-:
Actually, she posted every weapon's purpose
The katana
The side blade
the chakrams
the gauntlets
the knife
2:24amAkatsuki_Zala:
chakram for a style
gaunglets for tai
2:24am-x- Altrius -x-:
>> She made a style
She made that counter argument you knpw
2:24amAkatsuki_Zala:
was it approved?
2:24am-x- Altrius -x-:
*know
2:24amAkatsuki_Zala:
yup
2:24am-x- Altrius -x-:
It was still in the making
2:25am
and it is still
I read a bit of it... it's good
The purpose of her guantlets really
are to prevent the chakrams
from cutting her
from when she uses the,
*them
But
She listed them as a weapon as well
Since they have iron studs on the knuckles
2:26am
She stated that would be her one tai weapon and style
2:26amAkatsuki_Zala:
..........
2:26am-x- Altrius -x-:
Since that post, she hasn't done anything v.v
2:26amAkatsuki_Zala:
........
2:26am-x- Altrius -x-:
So. I think she won't be coming back DX
2:27amAkatsuki_Zala:
...............
2:27am-x- Altrius -x-:
I'm trying to make a point here. This is the reason that pointing out such unwritten rules and all that is bad
D:
2:29amAkatsuki_Zala:
you made excellent points
I'm just stunned how awful I am
2:30am-x- Altrius -x-:
v.v
Sorry
2:30amAkatsuki_Zala:
I just made a person feel upset
because I wanted to make sure
that those who don't specialize in weapons or tai
make sure they don't abuse them
2:31am
I went too far
2:31am-x- Altrius -x-:
I mean, overall. That Asura character was good .-.
A hyper little girl who fancies weapons
Divorced parents
ect
Kinda Mary Sue
2:32am
But, it's still a good solid base to build from
2:33am
brb x.x I talked my toungue off
2:33amAkatsuki_Zala:
no...
2:33am-x- Altrius -x-:
You realize this lasted for almost two hours
2:33amAkatsuki_Zala:
it's not that
I know
but I really .....
I really am devastated that........
I just realize this now......
2:35am-x- Altrius -x-:
Even if someone doesn't have a style, you don't need a style to actually pick up a weapon and use it. You know, I mean I can pick up a sword and use it. Yea, not good and I'll be bat s**t crazy to go against someone who -is- good with it
You know what I mean?
I think the Kenjutsu specialists, and tai, ect would reign supreme in their art, but that wouldn't make them exclussive to that art
2:36amAkatsuki_Zala:
they won't be able to use it to its full potential
2:36am-x- Altrius -x-:
Now... Puppeteers. They are more....exotic
I mean, Mbizi won't be able to twirl his blade around like some ******** dancer
But, he'll be able to do basic things
2:37am
Like a cut, stab, slash
ect
People who go around using it like some art of a damn god, yea, that's going to far
I mean, if you think about it, anyone can use a sword
but
it all goes down to the individuel skill of that one person
2:38am
I myself practice swinging around a freaking cherry wood staff that's broken off a old broom. This is gonna be my example right now
2:39am
When I first started swinging that damn thing, I sucked
it was heavy to me really
But I had it for like 6-7 years now
over those 6-7 years, at least once awhile, I swing the s**t out of it. Noooo style in mind
2:40am
I mean nothing, I just take it, and use it a bit. Develop my own way of using it
Now, It's like feather weight though
I can do a but of my own touches to it, but I know nothing of a set style
or a fighting style
2:41am
I'm just a guy who watched a kung fu movie and imitated it
x3
or
tried
lol
2:41amAkatsuki_Zala:
I'm listening to every word you say
2:41am-x- Altrius -x-:
This is my real life expirence~
2:41amAkatsuki_Zala:
and I think this needs to go to the meeting table
2:42am
you have the notes right?
2:42am-x- Altrius -x-:
I logged it all
2:42amAkatsuki_Zala:
I'll write notes of my own on this subject
because it is true
one can stab, slash and swing a sword/weapon
yet we need to find ways
so that those who are genjuts
2:43am-x- Altrius -x-:
Now
You know that trap kid?
or w/e
2:43amAkatsuki_Zala:
yea
2:43am-x- Altrius -x-:
He made a good point
About his tai
Any living being can punch and kick
but, he does not follow any style
2:44amAkatsuki_Zala:
I let him have his tai
2:44am-x- Altrius -x-:
I mena, he's just a normal puncher or kicker
*mean
Yea, but you specified to make sure it's not tai
or listed
Jutsu means technique
anything is a technique
2:45am
Picking my nose and wiping my a** (crude example.... forgive me ) is a technique
Well
2:45amAkatsuki_Zala:
lol
2:45am-x- Altrius -x-:
meh
You get the idea
2:45amAkatsuki_Zala:
I do
2:46am
even if he does punch and kick
2:46am-x- Altrius -x-:
He will be weak as a powder puff
2:46amAkatsuki_Zala:
I learned that the hard way
when I took the chunnin exam
2:46am-x- Altrius -x-:
I mean. I seen the weakest most quiet kid in my class at one point
2:47am
But he got into a fight and still fought
He lost
but he still fought
He put up some kind of fight
Even though he didn't have the body to do so